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donors as well. former presidents jimmy carter, bill clinton, neither of the bushes coming. george h.w. bush still recovering from illness. you can see them setting up. putting name tags on the chairs. so everyone knows where to sit and laying out the official inauguration ceremony program. a lovely, lovely piece of paper right here. we got one ourselves. lays out the ceremonies that will be happening today in about six hours from now. zoraida. >> all right. thank you very much, john. president obama better get all of his partying done tonight. his second term is in full effect already and that means the potential for great achievements, but if history is any indicator, the second term is where things can get messy. it's not like he wasn't warned. >> i'm more than familiar with the literature about presidential overreach in second terms. >> president barack obama's victory dance is about to become a dance against destiny. >> if we look back, some really great examples of really big things being done in second terms. but recent history, there is the potential for real disaster. >> i did

of the sitting president or the public was not over enchanted with the war in iraq when george w. bush ran for reelection. against john kerry, but voters by a small margin seen to believed bush would be the better leader. it cannot be said that the vote reflected a favorable referendum on george w. bush's first term. the importance of the communication skills of a candidate cannot be discounted as a factor, however. but all of this misses a different evaluation that merits being taken into account in judging between an income, barack obama, and his challenger, mitt romney. that is the chinks of the second term on too many presidents. 27 of 19 presidents -- only seven of 19 presidents elected to a second term avoid having a troubled or failed second term. that would give the country about a 30% chance of obama and the nation experiencing an improved security of economic climate. after four years if obama is reelected. i do not suggest that the gamble should not be taken. simply, that history into playing with politics might give us pause. so what does history predicted about a second term f

" which complained about george w. bush spending $40 million on his second inauguration. jim touched in this. touched on this. they said the inauguration, the ceremonies for aauguration in war time lingering question of tone. that was all about george w. bush's second inaugural. and then for barack obama spending 50 million on his second inauguration, the times wrote fundraising is lagging so far for inaugural plans. and lamenting the fact that in this economy $50 million was tough to raise. just an interesting point. >> next on news watch. hillary clinton serves it up and the press reacts. >> what difference, at this point, does it make? >> hillary clinton finally answers questions about the benghazi debacle. delivering a powerful performance to convince lawmakers and the media to see it her way. did it work? find out next on news watch. y te a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with pri

. is that the case? karl rove, former senior advisor to president george w. bush and a fox news contributor and good morning to you, karl. i see you stayed far away from washington, d.c. today, back there in austin, texas. what do you think that number, 55%, reflects based on what we've watched over the past two months? >> well, it reflects people paying attention to what's been going on. the president has been far more confrontational after the election. in fact, excuse me, "new york times" article yesterday interviewing a bunch of his friends where one of the takeaways from his friends and aides, he would be quote, more bloody-minded about republicans. recent stories in both the post and "l.a. times" and "new york times" where his aids felt aides felt he was liberated in his section term. liberated from what? take on political opposition and focus on defeating the republicans in the fourth fourth election. most presidents say they're liberated. i'm never on the ballot again. i can work with people to bring together big purposes. the president has much smaller objective. let me beat use my power to

of a sitting president. the public was not over enchanted with the war in iraq when george w. bush ran for reelection. against john kerry, but voted by a small margin seem to believe bush should be the better theater cannot be with the vote reflected a favorable referendum on george w. bush's first term. the importance of the communication of a candidate cannot be discounted as a factor however. but all of this misses a different valuation of mayors being taken into account in judging between incumbent or obama and his challenger, and that rummy. that is the of the second term on so many presidents. only seven of 19 presidents elected to a second term avoided having a troubled or failed second term. i would give the country about a 30% chance of obama and the nation next. cnn improved security and economic climate. after four years if obama is reelected. i do not suggest the campbell should not be taken, simply that history playing with politics might give us pause. so what does history project about a second term for barack obama? where he reelect it was so few president having succes

on december 18, 2008 with outgoing president george w. bush. listen to what he said, also his body language. [video clip] >> you said, i am optimistic that we can change the tone in washington. >> that was a hopeful person saying that. >> are you less hopeful? >> we work together, there were some bipartisan accomplishments but the rhetoric got very tough. some people here in this town use the politics of personal destruction to advance their agenda. i do not want to sound self- serving, but i have not. i do not think a president should. i was hoping for better tone, and it did not happen. host: as you reflect on george w. bush at the end of his two terms. guest: president obama has said things better very similar. it is not just about washington. washington is a reflection of a broader culture. we live in a polarized culture. we live in a culture that celebrates -- notoriety is the quickest ticket to 15 minutes in the 24 hour news cycle. the other enormous difference that contributes to this -- i do not know how you reverse it. 50 years ago, you had two political parties that were both appe

started it in 2007 with harry reid to block george w. bush. george w. bush never challenged this. >> correct. and in fact, george w. bush's lawyers wrote recently in the newspapers that this is presidential power. the constitution gives the president the power to make recess appointments. and they are undermining. >> that is really not in dispute. what is in dispute here is whether the senate was actually in recess and the question comes who gets to decide whether the senate is in recess? the senate or the president? >> and i think the oath -- you also have to put this in broader context. >> things got done during that -- >> they weren't in town. they weren't in town. you could not consider a nomination because they weren't here. >> the thing about this, though, put it in broader context. the more interesting aspect of the ruling was them dialing this way, way back and saying in fact if you look at the constitution you can't even if you are a president hold out the recess appointments and then make them finally put them forward when the senate is in recess. the recess has to happ

happens. clean it up. it's family show. george w. bush never mentioned terrorism. that was the topic that dominated his term. i re-eisenhower's second inaugur inaugural. the most important thing was to send troops into little rock. i think most of these presidents have no idea what they're about to encounter. >> outside events end up shaping the legacy and how they respond. the president's maximum political power and validation is right now in this moment and in the next year. the question is does he strike while the iron is hot an does he take to the tendency which will be to appeal to the democratic pass and try to ram something through or do something against his nature and try to reach out against republicans and work with marco rubio on immigration. >> the interesting thing about political capital is mandates that what you create as the president. you can create more and grow more if you do well and if the economy comes back. there's a wild card here and it's iran. nobody needs to forget that iran will be major issue president obama will have have to wrestle with. >> i want to t

, ironically, if john mccain and lindsey graham and others had joined with george w. bush, this could have been done in 2007. >> right. what john mccain sort of didn't say but implied was what has changed about this issue? it's simple. november 6th, the 2012 general election. the overall share of republican votes was -- people that voted for republicans is white. 11% nonwhite. it is -- that is an untenable -- we saw in 2012, and it will only get worse if they continue to lose 70% plus of the hispanic vote. that's what's changed here. republicans broadly recognize it. the question is jose touched on it, the path to citizenship. that is the piece that is always the one that conservative republicans said we will not do this. we are validating illegal behavior, no matter what we do. now there are some republicans on board. marco rubio, john mccain, lindsey graham saying, look, this has to be in the proposal. can they rally republicans in the house and senate behind the political necessity of putting immigration reform behind them with a path to sit sfwlenship or not? that seems to me to be the rub.

, george w. bush. another poll shows since president obama was re-elected, just a third of voters think he has been more bipartisan. but the majority, 55% say he's been more confrontational. does this mean nothing can really get done that's meaningful in washington to solve our nation's national debt and help the economy? we have a former white house political director under president george w. bush and a former chief of staff to west virginia senator joe mansion. >> great to be here. >> eric: matt, let me start with you. how do we get here? >> well, you know, i think about the president i served, george w. bush. when he came to office, he really was concerned about trying to if i understand a way to reach across the aisle because clearly bill clinton left the presidency with high numbers. he worked with ted kennedy. he worked with democrats and signature domestic policy issues and then 9/11 happened and the wars occurred. really, the nation polarized again, right versus left. i don't think we have come out of that. obama inherited that. but he talked about bridging that and governing in a

of the george w. bush administration. this brings me to another critically important part of our book, which is how the islamic republic of iran has become the biggest that issue of american mistakes and are ongoing decline in the middle east. in our book, we lay out how by pursuing a foreign policy and building a domestic political order that attracts publics, the islamic republic of iran has been able to take an impeach of american mistakes, to improve its own position dramatically. the key to the islamic republic successes has been that beyond the shift in the distribution of power, who has power in the middle east is a detailed earlier, something even more important is happening and that is the middle east will power itself is changing. it is now increasingly less defined by hard military capabilities for the united states has a clear advantage in the islamic republic of iran is relatively positioned and more defined in terms of the balance of influence are the islamic republic of iran has real unique advantages. as we explained in our book, the islamic republic is encouraging and taken

not just idiosyncratic, ideologically-generated products of the george w. bush administration. as we describe in our book, these stem from a much deeper source that cuts across both democratic and republican administrations, and it's something we describe as the united states, essentially, giving in to a post-cold war temptation to act as an imperial power in the middle east. and it is this imperial turn in america's middle east policies pursued with very little regard for realities on the ground in the middle east that have proven not just quixotic, but deeply damaging to american interests. as a candidate back in twaipt, now-president obama then seemed to really understand this. he talked about it courageously during the campaign. he pledged to not just withdraw american troops from iraq, but to change what he called the american mindset that had gotten us into the strategic mistake of invading iraq in the first place. he pledged to really change america's middle east policies. but instead the obama administration has pursued the same sorts of policies as its predecessors, the same

, jimmy carter, no bushes, however. george h.w. bush recuperating from illness and george w. bush had to send his regrets. look at the blue carpet. yesterday they had vacuums in here cleaning up and the glass you can see right there, just minutes, wiping it clean to make everything look absolutely perfect for the ceremonies again. the president will take the oath for the second time in two days at 11:30 this morning. soledad. >> john berman, thank you. let's get to john king. hey, john. >> soledad, hello to you. i don't think it's so chilly. i'm with you on the weather front. a beautiful spring day in washington. let's get to the team joining us on beach day in washington. we have the former obama deputy press secretary, margaret hoover, and brian liza for "the new yorker" and ron brownstein from "the national journal." we're going to head straight up to john borrasso, a conservative, and let's start with this morning. a new beginning for the president. is this a new beginning for the republican party. your leader, famously, infamous, started the first obama term saying the number one

in the senate, paul ripe in the house, and maybe we can have like george w. bush, a republin vision that had legal status and maybe even citizenship for those in this country illegally, ballpark number about 10 million. would a tea party member like you support that? in the past, you've called that amnesty. >> that would be real hard for me, and i defined amnesty, and not many have because they want the broader definition when it's convenient. to grant amnesty is to pardon immigration law breakers and reward them with the objective of their crime. if that's what this bill does, it would fit the definition of amnesty. >> could your speaker survive if he allowed that bill to come to the floor of the house of representatives? >> i think we'd want to look at the language on that. john boehner's tone and his body language and everything i heard him say at the retreat in williamsburg, he and our leadership team was all about how we pull our conference together and work together. i don't think you'll see another bill come to the floor that's got that large a number of democrat votes we've seen in t

down at all in the last four years. >> let's go to other presidents george w. bush, clinton. what will their unemployment numbers. >> you can look at those numbers president bush got hit by economic crisis. increased toward his popularity. president clinton very popular his unemployment numbers were extremely low. you can see the correlation. reagan's number interestingly enough 7.3 percent it was high. it came down it was much higher closer to 10 percent he was re-elected. his started at 3.5 it went up to almost 5. even though he was reelected in a land slide he was not popular because he wasn't likeable. wasn't that popular. >> you say there's a direct popularity in unemployment numbers and popularity. >> the trajectory of unemployment. if you bring it down your popularity goes up almost inversely. the other way around. even if you have a low number to start with if you go up your popularity goes down. >> those are the popularity numbers. talk about the national debt at the start of a second term for president obama. >> epic crisis proportions. what was interesting about the pea

: the democrats. >> no, democrats -- >> democrats started it in 2007 with harry reid, blocking george w. bush. george w. bush never challenged this. >> correct and, in fact, george w. bush's lawyers wrote recently in the newspapers, that this is presidential power, the constitution gives the president the power to make recess appointments. >> chris: juan, i want to -- >> that is not in dispute. what is in dispute here, is whether the senate was actually in recess and the question comes, who gets to decide whether the senate is in recess? the senate? or the president? >> a sham... >> and, in the broader context, there are things -- >> -- things done during that -- >> they weren't in town, they could not consider the nomination because they were not here. >> but it in broader context, the more interesting aspect of the ruling was them dialing it way, way back and saying, in fact if you look at the constitution, you can't even, if you are a president, hold out the recess appointments, and, then make them finally put them forward when senate is in recess. the recess actually has to happen while t

ladies? >> i think it's very similar what presidents recently have experienced. george w. bush came hoping to change the environment. bill clinton came thinking he could change it. the last person who began to sense there were greater possibilities was reagan, that was almost a different political age. it was harder to govern then. >> you also think about, had the clintons and how bill clinton -- he seemed to revel in politics, the reaching out to people. in the article, i found it fascinating that the obamas haven't had bill and hillary clinton over for dinner. i -- i mean, she's -- all the things that bill clinton did during the campaign, all the work that hillary clinton's done, they've never had a dinner at the white house with them? >> i think this is something outsiders find difficult and surprising. the obamas can be vivacious, charming they have great public personalities. what people in washington see -- but i think people all over the country don't necessarily see it, there's an intro version there, a self-protectedness. the obamas said both when the president became famou

george h.w. bush and first lady barbara bush. the song, i could have danced all night. ♪ his son, george w. bush, dancing with first lady laura bush for just seconds. less than a minute on each ball they attended. ♪ make a wish baby >> the clintons dancing to "make a wish." >> and there was that saxophone moment. at his second inaugural. ♪ unforgettable. >> what was unforgettable was the number of balls that year, 14 of them. and four years ago -- ♪ at last >> beyonce, the first performance for the first couple, ten balls. and in between balls, the obamas riding in a golf cart giving their feet a rest. and that moment in a freight elevator, the first lady wrapped in her husband's jacket to keep warm. she'll need that jacket tomorrow here. pretty windy out here at the capital. our inaugural coverage begins tomorrow with a special edition of "good morning america." see you tomorrow. goodnight. >> next at 6:00, they did it. the niners are nfc champs can going to the super bowl. >> the frenzy here in the bay area as fans get excited for super bowl xlvii. >> a different sort of

$500 bonus cash. ♪ >>> graph time. during the george w. bush administration, government spending went up a lot. this is government expenditures per capita, per american person. it combines federal, and state and local governments, right? as you can see, it start there's when george w. bush took office in 2001, and it wasn't like there was just some individual spike in spending that happened right after 9/11. it was a steady, huge increase over time. so per capita government spending was roughly 12 grand per person when w. came into office. when he left office, it wasn't 12 grand anymore, it was 16 grand in government spending for every man, woman and child in the country. that is a big, steep increase. for comparison sake, if you look at bill clinton, who was in office for the same amount of time, bill clinton also saw a spending rise, but compared to dubbia, he kept spending under control. it really takes off, as you can see, when it goes to bush. since president obama has been in office, he has been better than both of them. he hasn't just held the reins, like clinton did, he has tu

in the backroom deals -- >> even movements can be cloistered. i remember a dinner during the george w. bush administration in southern california. it was norman lear and his wife, larry david, bob scheer. they were sitting around w eeping in their expensive soup about the fact that we were living in hell. rupert murdoch on the media. george bush was president. norman lear had his pulse on american culture for 30 years. why cannot figure out how to deal -- deliver a message that is important and happening? >> that is important. we can find messages that speak to people where they are. they can also have some satire like stewart or colbert. there is the idea of exposing with satire. it opens people's eyes to the hypocrisy and corruption of our politics. the problem is you want the captivating stories and images and vocabulary, but a lot of the colbert-stewart stuff is so absurd and over the top that people do not want to get engaged. >> that is where a large number of people get their news. >> i think the obama campaign was a pivotal point, bringing people in. now they leave. there is the pos

president, and george w. bush was a guy who thought deeply about imuation reform, poverty and trying to craft a middle class agenda for the gop. george w. bush is a figure that many republicans have been running away from. so tell me, do you think republicans were too quick to abandon george w. bush? >> i'm sorry, what? i was tweeting. i'm sorry. [laughter] um, well, yes and no. i think, obviously, politically republicans distanced themselves from george w. bush because it was politic thing to do. numbers don't lie. he became very unpopular. parties tend not to embrace figures and politicians who become unpopular. my view is that a lot of the distress over bush's domestic agenda from which republicans fled beginning really in 2005 had, it was a, it was an ancillary result of the failure to secure victory in iraq early and to have a favorable reckoning -- >> so iraq sank what might have been a successful domestic policy agenda? >> right. well, what i mean is that i think the entire country stopped listening to president bush on what would be efficacious for the country when it lost fa

. that was the same approval rating that your former boss, george w. bush, had on his inauguration day. >> by the time august and katrina happened, the end of his presidency started with that. he started at 52 and went down to the end of it. >> you can make argument against term limits. but lyndon johnson understood, he had a few months. just a few months. that's when he got voting rights done. that's when he got a lot of those major pieces of great society legislation done, was in those months of 1965. medicare, all that. and so, i think we're likely to see a lot of activity right now. >> on immigration, guns, debt. all coming up. we're going to get that all day long here. >>> i want to go back to josh elliott on pennsylvania avenue. you're giving us a little weather, right, josh? >> it's a beautiful day. you were speaking of the battle lines drawn. let today stand as it is, an oasis of unity. one that is brisk but sunny. we want to thank our sam champion dearly for the weather we have in the nation's capital today, sam. >> just because it could have been worse. we've had everything. it's the topic a

say it long enough, it must be true. i submit to you that george w. bush, who won two terms as a republican president, he was also told the same thing for 2.5 years. you can win. i would ask people politely, in 1997, who do you like in 2000? george w. bush, that is terrific. why? he can win. why do you think you can win? he is high in the polls. i will say, he did get high in the polls. how did that happen? everybody thinks he can win. plus he raised all that money. he is high in the polls, everybody thinks he can win. it becomes circular. he can win -- the democrats never ask that question. quickly, jimmy carter, barack obama, bill clinton. three important things we should learn. one was, they were all told they can't win. jimmy, how many times as he told he cannot win? and he won. i many times was barack obama told, don't even bother? hillary has got it wrapped up. that again? they were all told you can't win. they all one. two of them won twice. 20 years of democratic president because they defied the nonsense of who can or cannot win. third, they all one with people you

rejected a bill that president george w. bush supported, saying it gave amnesty to illegal immigrants. >> reporter: senator john mccain is one of the republicans behind the latest plan. he says the gop should help it become law. >> look at the last election, we are losing, dramatically. >> reporter: the hispanic vote, and we've got to understand that. >> reporter: tomorrow, president obama is traveling to las vegas to lay out his vision for immigration reform. danielle nottingham, cbs news, washington. >>> coming up in 15 minutes or so, we are going to have attorney donald moore on the show, an expert on immigration issues, to see if he thinks this is going to make an impact or die in the halls of congress. >>> closing arguments are expected to get underway this afternoon in the murder trial of a former culpepper, virginia police officer. daniel wright is charged with killing an unarmed woman. patricia cook was 54, wright claims he shot cook after she trapped his arm in the window of her vehicle and dragged him. the former officer was responding to a report of a suspicious vehicle in

as well. we will see, shep. >> shepard: republicans are aware george w. bush did it this too. >> he actually did it far more than president obama. who has only used this kind of recess appointment less than 30 times in 40 years. george w. bush used it 141 times over the course of two terms 8 years. that's why jay carney said that this is going to be overturned eventually whether it's by the supreme court. take a listen. >> we respectfully but strongly disagree with this decision. it counters 150 years of precedent. there are over 280 recess appointments made in -- during intrasession recess appointments by democratic and republican administrations alike. >> carney also noting this was just one court that was ruling on one case in washington state. a suit that had been brought against the nlrb. that's why tonight at the white house they are not sweating too much. they believe that they can win at the supreme court and they think in the end this is going to be pushed out, shep. ed henry out in the yard. thank you. penn state university could soon settle several civil claims in the chi

george w. bush? >> sorry. i was tweeting. [laughter] yes and no. politically, republicans distanced themselves from george w. bush because it was the thing to do. numbers do not lie. he became very unpopular. parties do not have to embrace figures and politicians to become unpopular. my view is that a lot of distress over bush's domestic agenda from which they fled in 2005. it had been an ancillary result of failure to defend iraq and have a favorable recognition. >> what might have been a successful policy agenda? >> i think the entire country stopped listening to president bush which would be good for the country when it lost faith that he was managing the war effectively. he found it more difficult to get hearings on some of the issues. a lot of people on the right to it came at bush on a lot of these domestic issues. they were feeling extremely distressed about what was going on in the war and did not want to turn on the war. we have troops in the field. this seems like a noble endeavor. they were angry at him for throwing them on the defensive for the prosecution of the war. as

military and their families. it is a tradition that was started under president george w. bush. they have expand it this year to be larger than it has ever been. it's essentially doubled in size. there are two official inaugural balls, two only in washington tonight. one of them is the commander in chief ball. and the other of them is the other official inaugural ball. thanks for being with us on what is kind of a big day in washington. you know the basics of what happened today. church service at st. john's house near the white house. the president goes from the white house then to the capitol, then he is sworn in at the capitol on the west front. and that is the spot from which president obama today delivered his second inaugural address. well will have much more on all of that coming up this hour. but here is the moment from today. the moment that i want to show you was not part of the official program. it was not on anybody's schedule. we did not know it was coming, and it was not spoken into any microphone. so i'm just going to play this for you for a second. but notice it's going to

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. this is something new. after president george w. bush won reelection in 2004, he did not have an entire campaign structure at the ready, millions of supporters strong mobilizing behind him and raising money for him to achieve his second term goals. president clinton didn't have anything like that when he was elected to a second term. no president has had an independent group do that. but barack obama now has that. his election campaign has been turned into an independent group. the chairman of the new group will be a man named jim messina. he is not exactly a political lightweight. his last job was in fact running president obama's 2012 reelection campaign. to have jim messina in charge of this thing means this is not a place where emeritus your friends to keep them on the payroll. this is something that is going to be an active operation with some of the biggest guns in politics at the helm of it. democrats are turning their brightest lights from the two successful campaigns of this president into a political operation that will operate throughout president obama's second term. nobody has any i

of policy planning under president george w. bush and president of washington college. good to have you with this. let me start with you, if i may. i was -- actually, i was heartened to hear senator kerrey acknowledged the importance of us strong economy to our foreign policy. >> racking up all of this debt. as a result i think our ability to influence events is greatly decreased. hillary clinton, the of going secretary says, don't pick a fight with your banker. so i think secretary carey, when he comes into office will have a much harder time because of the whole economic sovereignty issue lou: your reaction? >> at the that is absolutely right. the real challenges have to continue to promote u.s. interests abroad when clearly the obama administration is focused on domestic issues, nation building and home. that's a tough task for the secretary to. lou: and the u.k., the foreign minister has a great sense of humor because he just a day after secretary clinton had testified to warn the u.k. citizens of the dangers of benghazi. that had to be -- somebody there had to be just laughing as t

to elbow their way to the front. for george h.w. bush that's a great example. another great example, william f. buckley. he had liberal friends. in fact, he campaigned for liberals that were his friends even though he knew it upset some on the conservative side. for william f. buckley, it wasn't a blood sport. >> to end this block, to counter it just a bit, and i'm sorry but it has the added value of being true, the president does need to reach out.agree. but he has, and it hasn't worked. so when he does it again, the republicans actually need to show up. >> you just quoted henry kissinger. there is hope. >> that's like me going jogging for ten minutes and saying afterwards, you know what i didn't lose 30 pounds. no i'm dead serious. they have stuck their toe in the water. that is it. when you still have democrats, democratic senators that run the senate andrea mitchell complaining that they've never been to camp david, the president doesn't call them they don't go over to the white house, then it's time for him to be more aggressive about this. >> two points quic

. >> you took photos of george w6789 bush that you see as book ends, an intense bush family during the disputed election with al gore, and then at the end, president bush leaving the white house? >> yeah, the first one was backstage election night in austin, texas. al gore had already conceded the election, but five minutes after that photo was taken, he called back and took it back which led us to that whole hanging chads scenario. but the final picture. the one that was taken four years ago today is george w. bush, last day as president walking out of the white house to the right is president-elect obama and what struck me about that moment was that bush never looked back, it's like, he threw the keys to the place over to obama and that was it. to me, it's a powerful moment. and also, again, goes to the transition of power of the united states. we have one party going to the next. it's peaceful, you and i have both been in places where the transitions are more difficult. >> that's for sure. thank you for taking the time to talk about these images. thank you so much. in the last f

, but the 17th to have to go in all girls. the others include george w. bush, bill clinton, ronald reagan, richard nixon, to eisenhower, fdr, woodrow wilson, william mckinley, ulysses s. grant, abraham lincoln, anger jackson, james monroe, james madison, thomas jefferson, and george washington. down on the national mall where the crowds are gathering, we have a reporter in the middle of everything. >> right from a capital, in the middle of the national mall, three ladies with us and make the journey to this and operation. >> i am gloria, from seattle. >> michelle, new york. >> marion, pennsylvania. >> you decided to meet here. >> we are all three sisters. >> why did you decide to come to washington for the 57 and operation? >> i think we regretted not being here quarter years ago. we decided we would not miss it this time around. >> we never thought about it or we did not think it is possible to come altogether. >> how did this all happened? how did each of you get here? >> i drove up from pennsylvania. >> i flew in. >> gives me an average cost of how much this will come to, the bill to b

clinton will be here today but there will be no former bush presidents. of course george h.w. bush is recovering from being ill. he's been in the hospital for quite some time. george w. bush decided to stay back in texas, too, although he did send his regrets. the leadership in congress, the joint chiefs. there is one member of the cabinet who will not be here. we don't know who it is yet but it's a so-called designated survivor, the person that stays behind just in case the unimaginable happens. it was then defense secretary robert gates four years ago. we're waiting to see who it is this time around. this is where all the big people will be sitting. they'll file in sometime a little over 9:00 a.m. zoraida? >> i love the view, john. i think you may have the best seat in the house right now. >> not bad. >> thank you very much. so the washington who's who will no doubt be in full party mode tonight with inaugural events planned around the city, the commander in chief's ball and the inaugural ball will bring out big names like katy perry, brad paisley, stevie wonder and alicia keys.

. mitt romney, he can win. if he said it won enough, it must be true. george w. bush, who won two terms, as a republican president, i would ask people politely in 1997, who delights in 2000? george w. bush, that is terrific. why? he can win. you are right. he raised all of that money. how did he raise all that money? it becomes circular. he can win, the democrats never asked that question. jimmy carter, bill clinton, barack obama. they were all told, you cannot win. how many told -- how many times was jimmy carter told, you cannot win? how many times was barack obama told you cannot win? they all won. two of them twice. the 01 with people you had never heard of before. we do not have anything like that in the republican party. we throw good money after bad. dole and mccain and romney use the same people. staff infection. it will not matter to do you put in front of them if you have the same people pulling the same strengths. [applause] >> how do we make a compelling argument? from a conservative point of view, how can you even make the compelling argument to republicans? it is not some

lived to be 93. jimmy carter and george h.w. bush are both 88. do they explain why? my first thought was they have great health care. >> that is one of the reasons. and let's face it, men who get to be president tend to be well educated, they tend to be relatively wealthy and they have access to top notch health care. so i think that is one good explanation for why they do have the tendency to live longer. >> we were just looking at some other presidents who aged rather quickly. george w. bush, we have i think that before and after. also his dad, george h.w. bush, if we can bring those up again. they both look, i mean, clearly, lots of gray. but they also did exercise a lot so i guess that's one thing that kept them looking fit, if not on their faces, the rest of them looked pretty fit and energetic. >> ironically enough, the president who didn't seem to age was the president who was the oldest when he came into office. that was ronald reagan. and while the white house always officially denied that president reagan dyed his hair, i think there was a lot of skepticism about that. >> b

assault weapons ban will actually pass? plus, president obama and former president george w. bush have at least one thing in common according to a new poll. we'll tell you about that. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics even on a saturday afternoon. hmm, we need a new game. ♪ that'll save the day. ♪ so will bounty select-a-size. it's the smaller powerful sheet. the only one with trap + lock technology. look! one select-a-size sheet of bounty is 50% more absorbent than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. use less. with the small but powerful picker upper, bounty select-a-size. olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? or double miles on every purchase, every day! we r

george w. bush mitt romney's healthcare provider. on and on. so when i say, and yet for all of these things that he has done, he has copied all of these big ideas from republicans. again, going all the way back and then to nixon and yet their response is, he is just a fascist, a socialist. really? what were nixon and reagan and george w. bush for god's sake? they completely shunned their own. they ignored their own history >> bill: they don't recognize their own ideas. right? when they are staring them in the face. >> i think most people can recognize the republican party of today is not the republican party of 20, 30 years ago. most people who look at this independently can see that. but i think the bigger question is: is there ever going to be anything that's a wake-up call for them? what would the wake-up call be that they say, okay. we really need to change here? >> i think the wake-up call if you delve into these poll numbers from these election night numbers we were just talking about this, you know, off there, they lost the hispanic vo

they have been there already. it's called george w. bush america. it has two unfunded wars, depression and ongoing effort to divide americans over wage issues. it leads to secure a presidential win in 2016 by changing the rules of the electoral college. now under the old rules the candidate who wins the popular votes gets all of the state's electoral votes. which is how president obama beat mitt romney handily 332- 332-206. but under the new rules presidential candidates would split the electoral college votes based on which congressional districts they won with two additional electoral votes going to the winner of the popular vote. so if those rules had been in effect last year, president obama would have lost to governor romney 262-273. nice thinking. right now those rules are in effect in two states maine and nebraska. but g.o.p. legislation in michigan pennsylvania and virginia are also considering making the change. the g.o.p. also isn't backing down on its effort to restrict access to the ballot box by potential democratic voters wherever it can. so the democratic legislators in

from george w. bush because it was the thing to do. numbers do not lie. he became very unpopular. parties do not have to embrace figures and politicians to become unpopular. my view is that a lot of distress over bush's domestic agenda from which they fled in 2005. it had been an ancillary result of failure to defend iraq and have a favorable recognition. >> what might have been a successful policy agenda? >> i think the entire country stopped listening to president bush which would be good for the country when it lost faith that he was managing the war effectively. he found it more difficult to get hearings on some of the issues. a lot of people on the right to it came at bush on a lot of these domestic issues. they were feeling extremely distressed about what was going on in the war and did not want to turn on the war. we have troops in the field. this seems like a noble endeavor. they were angry at him for throwing them on the defensive for the prosecution of the war. as a result of the republican party getting thrown on its heels of immigration, in 2006 i published a book on

and george w. bush began the second term as president and the minority rights you have in the u.s. senate, that requires more than 60 votes to usually get things done, was very instrumental in making sure that the second term of george w. bush wasn't a runaway freight train. now, what is true and i think progressives are coming from is that president obama's first two years in office, there was an unprecedented number of filibuster. it wasn't being used on big matters but on everything. but with the agreement was able to do last night was on some lower court judges as well as lower court cabinet positions, they're easier to pass as well as to be able to pass some procedural moves. very incremental change, thomas. the white house happy with it. progressives not so much. >> all right. so people that know the movie "mr. smith goes to washington" this is not like that. >> exactly. that was what liberals and progressives wanted the most. if you wanted to actually filibuster, you had to do it on the floor in person as long as it took. that was not part of the refor s s and that left some people

under george w. bush. even george w. supported reinstating the assault weapon ban. but it was the republicans in the senate who stood in the way. which is why it makes this compromise on the filibuster all the more perplexing. i think we need to look at the assault weapons and magazines for these guns. they'll do everything they can in washington, which is fighting back and pushing back on an common-sense legislation that is proposed and they'll savage anyone who gets in the way. >> jennifer: what is frustrating about the statement they put out against dianne feinstein she repeatedly said we're not taking your guns away. this is just about assault weapons and high capacity magazines. it's not just republicans who might vote against this new rash of gun safety legislation. democrats, even including harry reid, the majority leader, and montana's bacchus they might side with republicans as well. so in the bottom line, does an assault weapon's ban have any chance of becoming law without significant filibuster reform? >> no, because the democrats in the senate are being

the attendees. but neither president george w. bush nor george h.w. bush were in washington today. the president's arrival was greeted with applause and the lawmakers praised one another in bipartisan toasts and gift exchanges. speaker of the house john boehner presented flags to the first family and appealed for renewed political cooperation. >> we gather in the old hall to better hear one another >> ifill: moments later president obama echoed that appeal for cooperation >> i recognize that democracy is not always easy. and i recognize there are profound differences in this room. but i just want to say thank you for your service and i want to thank your families for their service because regardless of our political persuasions and perspectives i know that all of us serve because we believe that we can make america for future generations. and i'm confident that we can act at this moment in a way that makes a difference. >> ifill: and before they left the building, the group paused to look at the bus bust of dr. martin luther king, jr. that sits under the capital rotunda. then back into the cold

but not president george w. bush and george h.w. bush his father because of the latter's illness. supreme court justices were there as well as the parting cabinet members. the president took the oath of office for the second time having done it on sunday there a private ceremony then the inaugural address in which the president laid out his vision and his tae general da. >> my fellow americans, we are made for this moment and we will seize it so long as we seize it together! (applause) for we, the people, understand that our country cannot succeed when a shrinking few do very well and a growing many barely make it. (cheers and applause) we believe that america's prosperity must rest upon the broad shoulders of a rising middle-class. we, the people, declare today that the most evident of truths that all of us are created equal is the star that guides us still just as it guided our forebearers through seneca falls and selma and stonewall, just as it guided all those men and women-- sung and unsung-- who left footprints along this great mall to hear a preacher say that we cannot walk alone. to hea

. >>> and elizabeth bush is running for congress in south carolina. she is not related to george w. bush but she is related to comedian stephen colbert. that's his sister. she may be getting a little free tv time. what do you think? that is your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> a series of gun show accidents, bash bra walters medical condition and video of man versus shark you don't want to miss. >>> plus, how has president obama impacted the country during his first four years in office? we'll reveal surprising statistics. it's all next on "first look." ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. my ex-girlfriend... 7th grade math teacher. who is this? that's pete. my... [ dennis' voice ] allstate agent. a "starving artist" has an allstate agent? he got me... [ dennis' voice ] the allstate value plan. it's their most affordable car insurance and you still get

of democracy worldwide, which is the george w. bush freedom agenda. by failing to swear off the use of drone attacks did he say anything likely to disappoint the base on the left. the president is a man of the left. after today, the departure from the orthodoxy should fool no one. >> bret: still, you have the republican house, that stands really in the way of what could be a very liberal agenda for the progressive agenda. and in the "state of the union" address on february 12, probably get the shopping list of things that he wants to really get done. down in the weeds. to get that done you have to reach across the aisle at some point. >> you do. unless, your purpose is to make war. fight. believe the country will stand with you. with both houses in the same, in control of the party you ram through your agenda like he did in the first two years. not saying that is what he is planning to do, but it strikes me unless he is willing to reach out to republicans to offer them as part of what he wants, some of the things they want to compromise more than he has seen willing to. he says, of course, t

is "let's party." >> mr. president -- >> reporter: he has made mistakes. like the time he asked george w. bush if he would throw out the first pitch at a nationals' game. >> a minute later, this big burly guy gets right in my face and says, "don't ever say anything to the president direct." >> reporter: bet you never did it again. >> never did it again. >> reporter: all these years, and charlie has never gotten a penny. four years from now, are you right back here? >> i am thinking about retiring when i'm 120. >> reporter: kate snow, nbc news, washington. >>> another break, and we'll be back with what al roker insists was the first interview with the newly reinaugurated president. he newly reinaugurated president. how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. we discussed all the symptoms... then he gave me some blood tests. showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number -- not just me. [ male announcer ] today, men with lo

. barack obama was not responsible for the benghazi attack any more than george w. bush was responsible for the 9/11 attacks or ronald reagan was responsible for the attacks on our marine barracks in beirut which killed over 200 marines. and frankly whether it was called a terrorist attack or not, in the immediate aftermath as far as i'm concerned is irrelevant. we just have to make sure that it never happens again, so that in the future our people are protected. that's what i want to get out of all of this. so, madam secretary, we commend you for accepting all of the arb recommendations and welcome your commitment to begin implementing them by the time you leave the department. even before the arb submitted its conclusions, the department moved to address certain shortcomings through its increased security proposal, vast majority of the funding for this proposal would come from funds previously appropriated for lower priority programs. and i hope congress will move without delay to give the department the transfer authority it needs to start applying these changes. it is important to r

a third of democrats think george w. bush's supports rigged the ohio with voter fraud. 36% think obama supporters did the same thing last november. think back to 9/11. more than a third of the democrats are part of the truther crowd, that president bush knew about the attacks before they happened. as do nearly 60% of african-americans. the difference in the party is the knowledge base. republicans who know more about the news are actually more likely to believe in the conspiracy theories fuelled by the right-wing networks like fox. we have the man who conducted the poll and a syndicated radio host and so michael, you brought this to our attention. i want to get you as a generalist like this, what do you think this told you, what surprised you about this poll? >> well, it reinforced what i have suspected all along which is that the business model at the far right is predicated on fear. that they scare the crap out of people, there's never any accountability. for some reason, chris, people don't remember six months later that they were told there was another catastrophe looming and there

to specifically as her accomplishments in that role? >> well, she promoted smart power, meaning after george w. bush and the iraq war sending troops abroad. finding other ways to achieve goals in the war on terror. she's largely been the voice of the women's movement around the world. talking about democracy and women's issues. she's beloved by feminists and holds a feminist role of global stature and i think most significantly in the end she is just very well liked by presidents and prime ministers and our own u.s. military. i mean, talk to the generals and talk to the admirals. they all have great respect for her. she has promoted the internet and facebook, twitter as tools in diplomacy and foreign policy making, probably more than any other person working in our government. >> sounds like a very modern secretary of state but does come at a price in benghazi and that hearing she had where she said, does it really matter what happened on the ground? this will come back to haunt her no matter what she does. >> if she runs for president, though some of the sound bites from the hearings will obv

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